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« on: November 29, 2009, 04:01:08 AM »
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This has been brought to our attention by another member. I will not post the username of this user unless he is cool with it. The information provided below is somewhat hearsay, and also news articles that may be non-related. Take this information at face value and still speculative as it be.

First off, it still seems that the Admin, Mega, has still not shown up on the net to verify what has happened to Rogue Science. This is RogueSci.org for those wondering what website this thread is about. This is a questionable and unsettling thing for people like myself who not only administrate like this, and the former members of Rogue Sci. I, personally, hope nothing bad has happened to him. There are still many unanswered questions regarding the death of Rogue Sci. If any of you have any kind of pertinent information, please post it up here!

Second, one of the well-known members of Rogue Sci has a rather interesting outcome. Cryptic would be a better word to say. Apparently former member NBK2000 has been charged with the murder and dismembering of another Rogue Sci Member. He fled to Canada only to be extradited from Canada back to the United States for his crime. It is said that he had met his victim through the Rogue Sci website before killing him.


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Published: Thursday, May. 28, 2009 - 12:00 am | Page 3B

For a year and a half, Arthur Charles Carnes IV has fought deportation from Canada – arguing, even, that he was a refugee from the United States, according to authorities.

It didn't work. On Wednesday, the 38-year-old man finally was returned to Sacramento County, where he faces charges in connection with the 2007 dismemberment of a Galt-area man.

Carnes was booked into the Main Jail on one count of murder, as well as four felony counts associated with stealing personal information from his alleged victim, Matthew Alan Seybert, according to the Sacramento County Sheriff's Department. He is scheduled to be arraigned Friday.

The suspect's long-awaited return to Sacramento follows a lengthy investigation that included scouring the Internet, tracing ATM transactions and sorting through immigration protocols with Canada, detectives said. "It's nice to finally have him here," said homicide detective Elaine Stoops.

Seybert's mother reported her 41-year-old son missing Nov. 18, 2007, after she hadn't heard from him in a while, Stoops said. Deputies went to Seybert's 38-acre property in Galt three times to investigate, but found no evidence of foul play, Stoops said.

Unconvinced, the man's mother flew from Pennsylvania and scoured the house herself. Pulling back the sheets on her son's bed, she found a bloody mattress, Stoops said. Divers and cadaver dogs found parts of Seybert's body in Laguna Creek, near his property, on Dec. 8, 2007.

Detectives questioned one of two men who worked for Seybert's lawn mower repair business and lived on his property. The other, Carnes, couldn't be found, Stoops said.

Detectives allege Carnes drove Seybert's Ford Maverick to Lynden, Wash., just outside the Canadian border. Checkpoint cameras show Seybert ditching the Maverick and meeting a man on the other side of the border, Stoops said.

That man was Christopher Remple, Stoops said, a 21-year-old Canadian who met Carnes on what the detective described as an anarchist-like, anti-government Web site, www.roguesci.org. Carnes posted on the site under the name "nbk2000" – "Natural Born Killer 2000," Stoops said.

Remple brought Carnes to his parents' home in Langley, British Columbia, and persuaded them to let Carnes stay, saying he was "a draft dodger," Stoops said.

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police raided the home in 2008 and arrested Carnes for entering the country illegally. They found him in possession of an AK-47 – the weapon detectives say was used to kill Seybert. In the car abandoned in Washington, authorities found three loaded high-capacity magazines for an AK-47, the detective said.

Canadian authorities arrested Remple for aiding and abetting. Stoops said she was unsure of the status of that case.

What exactly motivated Carnes to kill his employer remains unclear, she said.

The best theory so far, Stoops said: Seybert was moving his business elsewhere "and had told Art Carnes he was not going to be invited" to come along.

This is pretty unsettling to say the least. To be honest, I am pretty blown away by this. I would have never seen this coming. I didn't know that member, but still a prominent member of Rogue Sci doing such a thing. This is just fucked up!

To be honest, I am one who is paranoid. Much of what you see on this forum is on the cliff of legality. My ass is on the line if it is ever crossed, and I know this. By no means will I ever condone this kind of conduct on this site. I am also weary and paranoid that some person may use the information on this site to try to make explosive devices that kill others. Anyone who ever hints to such a thing will be permabanned from the site. I hope Anarchology is never implicated as a source for such information.


Also to be added and most important of information if proven true is that Rogue Sci was not shut down by iDefense or any kind of internet censoring group, nor was it shut down by certain government organizations. This is just hearsay, but it seems that it was shut down by means of the owners not paying the bills for the server. I do not know this for sure. Please correct me if I am wrong.

As the owner and operator of Anarchology, I know that server costs are certainly not cheap. We currently went on a dedicated server after our old server kicked us off for excessive use of the processing side. Now we are on our own server and it does cost money. From my recollection, I do not remember Rogue Sci being supported by advertisements. Anarchology is on a minuscule level only to be seen by non-members.  If Rogue Sci did go down for non-payment of server fees, I would only hope one of their owners/administrators would come forward to verify.
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